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# Till We Have Faces, Part Two: Orual Unveiled (Mythic Mind, ep. 115)
- URL: https://mythicmindfellowship.com/till-we-have-faces-part-two-orual-unveiled-mythic-mind-ep-115/
- Published: 2025-10-20T13:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-10-23T04:37:34.000Z
- Author: Andrew Snyder

Mythic MindEpisode 115

# Till We Have Faces, Part Two: Orual Unveiled (Mythic Mind, ep. 115)

Dr. Andrew Snyder

20 October 2025

[Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQVoUnfx6o&ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)

## In this episode

Book Two of Till We Have Faces turns Orual’s case against the gods inside out. Dreams, digging, and judgment strip the veil she wore for a lifetime until the complaint itself becomes confession.

In this Mythic Mind lecture from the Fiction and Philosophy of C.S. Lewis course, Dr. Andrew Snyder (professor of philosophy and theology) walks Lewis’s hardest section: the pillar room, “no fox to help you here,” and the moment Orual finally has a face to meet the gods.

Topics include jealousy as love’s counterfeit, myth that will not flatten into allegory, and why Lewis thought this his greatest novel.

### People

**Dr. Andrew Snyder**Host and speaker

### Key themes

- Jealousy as love’s counterfeit
- Myth that will not flatten into allegory

## Related

- [**Till We Have Faces, Part One: Orual Behind the Veil (Mythic Mind, ep. 114)**Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhXO9V0PRw&ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)
- [**Mythic Mind 113 - Introduction to Till We Have Faces**Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSaprLzGIO8&ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)
- [**Myth Became Fact: The Incarnation as True Myth (Mythic Mind, ep. 116)**Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNI3hTdgXB8&ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)
- [**The Great Divorce: Heaven, Hell, and the Choice That Divides (Mythic Mind, ep. 117)**Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfA0S1KzxM&ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)

## Books mentioned

- [**Till We Have Faces**C.S. Lewis](https://bookshop.org/a/129785/9780062565419?ref=mythicmindfellowship.com)

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